Nichole: Use tissues

Laurel: Your booger wrapper

Daniel: I'm a booger wrapper

Nichole: Under my-

Laurel: Why- ...

Nichole: stool ...

Laurel: planting? Why are you planting booger wrappers under Nicole's stool?

Daniel: Well, I can't help it, you know. I'm just a booger wrapper, and my nose is snotty. Oh, no. But y'all will forgive me because I'm such a hottie. Hmm. Take a look at my middle-aged body and my nose that's always running, my mouth that's always punning. I'm either going or I'm coming in one of you.

Laurel: You should go into songwriting. You should write- You should write songs for the stars.

Daniel: I do. You too.

Laurel: For the real stars. Yeah.

Daniel: David Hasselhoff?

Laurel: Yes.

Nichole: It's been a while since he's done anything.

Daniel: Well, you know, he's always the star of my heart. Yeah, he's- You know, he's my number one

Nichole: he's due for a resurgence.

Laurel: And you're his ticket back.

Daniel: I'm just trying to imagine me, like, trying to go after washed-up celebrities and, Right ... convince them that my jingle writing, like my comedic jingle writing, is gonna be the thing that's gonna bring them back in the spotlight.

Nichole: think anything can happen on TikTok.

Laurel: Yeah. Mm.

Nichole: I'm not on TikTok, but-

Laurel: Yeah, I've- ... this

Nichole: is what I've been told.

Laurel: I've never seen TikTok, but- ... I have heard.

Daniel: I... Actually, there is a Polyamature Hour TikTok account, and-

Laurel: Is there?

Daniel: I made it.

Laurel: Oh.

Daniel: Yeah, and there is one video that is posted.

Nichole: What is it?

Daniel: It is, Humans bad"-

Laurel: " Why aren't we famous then? I don't understand.

Daniel: Welcome to Poly Amateur Hour.

Laurel: I'm Laurel.

Nichole: I'm Nicole.

Daniel: I'm Daniel.

Nichole: So how did it go last night with the dogs? So for context, I was at the coast at a sound bath.

Laurel: Nicole was getting healed while we were like, "Let's inflict some trauma upon our dogs."

Nichole: So this was a trial of, like, you know, for when we all live together.

Laurel: Yeah.

Nichole: Zoe and Dashiell and Darla also living together and to see- Yeah ... how it went. So-

Daniel: this went pretty well. You know, Dashiell and Zoe have a little bit of a history- Mm-hmm Zoe gets scared and then starts to growl, and then she'll snip a little bit. Yeah. And then Dashiell is like, "Fuck no." Mm-hmm. "Excuse me. This is my house." And then he chucks her hard, and then we have to pull them apart.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: Yeah.

Laurel: we did a walk around.

Daniel: And Zoe did much, much better on the walk too than she usually does. Like previous walks with Daschle she is, , usually yelled-

Nichole: Yeah ...

Daniel: for the first, five minutes of the walk.

Nichole: Mm-hmm.

Daniel: . You wanna do the-

Nichole: Oh, her famous yell?

Daniel: Yeah. Can you do it? But she was totally chill on the walk. She was just- Nice. Yeah.

Laurel: Yeah. When she sat on the couch with me, if, like, she could hear one of the dogs enter the room-

Daniel: Mm ...

Laurel: she would just go, "

Daniel: Mm." Mm.

Laurel: And then I'd have to be like, "Uh-uh," and then she would stop and look at me. So yeah, it was good. She got, like, growly a few times, but, like, , nobody wanted to test her growly. In the morning when I got up and let her out, everyone was just waddling around themselves. Mm-hmm. She did get guard-y of the water bowl.

Daniel: But Dashil didn't seem to care.

Laurel: Ev- yeah, everyone's just like, "Okay."

Nichole: All right. Okay, this is good. Why is there a blanket in the dryer?

Laurel: Oh, just 'cause it doesn't fit in my washing machine anymore. Oh, thank God. Yeah, no, nothing happened. Okay. It's my, it's my comforter, but yeah.

Nichole: All right. I don't know. You just said that you tried to squeeze all the liquid out of it, and I was like, uh-oh.

Laurel: Oh.

Nichole: What liquid is it? It could be any number of things.

Daniel: Yeah. I mean, go with the most obvious and flattering please.

Nichole: I, uh, that was my first thought.

Laurel: Mm. Mm.

Daniel: Mm.

Nichole: Don't make me say it.

Laurel: But you're the spokesperson.

Nichole: For squirting?

Laurel: Of squirt.

Nichole: Oh, yeah.

Daniel: We need more commercials in this podcast like that. Yeah.

Laurel: Someone pay us- Like with our classics ... someone pay us to make commercials for nonsense.

Nichole: Okay, actually, actually, companies would pay-

Laurel: Yeah

Nichole: monies to advertise on our podcast, they would get a fucking jingle.

Laurel: They would get... Yeah.

Daniel: You know, we should be careful what we ask for, because if we ever do start welcoming advertisers on- Mm-hmm ... Polyamature Hour. Like, I do not want to have to write, uh, the jingle, uh, Palantir, Palantir.»

Laurel: Wait. Like, the Palantir reaches out to Polyamature Hour- ... to advertise- ... the Panopticon.

Daniel: speaking of hard labor for me, we recently, uh, returned from Star Trek Las Vegas.

Nichole: Oh, right. It's the yearly time when Daniel gets to complain about being popular. He acts like we- He's so put out foist upon him- Yeah ... like, we, we force him to be our prop. Yeah. Like, it isn't his idea, one.

Laurel: Yeah.

Nichole: And two, that he doesn't enjoy it.

Daniel: Yeah. Are you guys talking about sex?

Laurel: Yes.

Nichole: Yes. Just our prop.

Daniel: So we go to Star Trek Las Vegas every year. It's kind of a tradition. And then it's also a tradition that I dress up as a cumbersome inanimate object, and also it's a tradition that afterwards we do a little crazy, sexy poly about it.

Laurel: Mm. I thought you were gonna say also it's a tradition that Laurel wears a bald cap. It

Daniel: is- It is now ... it is now.

Laurel: Ugh. I am. Like, I'm getting to the point where I'm like, "Oh, yeah, my bald cap this year, like, I got a cheaper one, not as good."

Daniel: So you're like a resident bald cap aficionado now. You're a b- bald cap gourmand.

Laurel: Yeah, I've done it twice- Yeah ... so I'm an expert.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: okay, so stewards. Daniel was the Betazoid gift box. I was Lwaxana

Daniel: Troi. Mm-hmm.

Nichole: Uh, Laurel was Mr. Homn.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Nichole: And we were entering the Con, right? And Daniel- ... just every 10, 15 seconds, "Rejoice!" "Rejoice!"

Daniel: Our titular Reid made the Betazoid gift box costume for us. and, it was an amazing piece of, like, carpentry. It was beautiful.

Nichole: Yes. Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: so we're walking down the hall, and this person comes up to us, and they say, "Excuse me, this might be a weird question."

Daniel: Oh. "

Nichole: But are you Polyamature Hour?" And we were like, "

Daniel: Ah." "I'm question." We're real, We're weird people.

Laurel: I also appreciated that they were like, "I recognize Daniel from his voice."

Daniel: I felt a little weird about that.

Laurel: No, you have a distinct voice.

Nichole: You have a very distinct voice.

Laurel: N-

Daniel: now notice that distinct is not a compliment necessarily inherently.

Nichole: Why would you take the handful of times that we get recognized and make it a bad thing about you?

Laurel: Jesus Christ,

Nichole: Daniel. Come on.

Daniel: Even I, though, was aware of how obnoxious my costume was. I was just yelling the entire time and laughing in a psychotic way. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then throwing candy at people, and I think I injured a dog. You did.

Laurel: What? You injured a service dog.

Daniel: What? I didn't injure him. I think he's fine.

Laurel: He is fine. But I had to apologize to this person a lot afterward.

Daniel: like, uh, walking behind the princess holding the train. You just walk behind me apologizing. And I'm like, "

Laurel: Sorry. I'm so sorry." "

Daniel: Sorry."

Nichole: Oh, we did that the entire time we were on the floor.

Laurel: Yes. '

Nichole: Cause you would just wander off. You

Laurel: would wander away, and then there's just, like, this box- ... spinning, like, rotating around- ... slowly in the middle of the fucking-

Nichole: Just stopping. Yeah. And people- Just- ... like, walking behind Ed, be like, "Ugh" ...

Laurel: And then you would just, like, spin around for a little while. Yeah.

Daniel: Yeah, I was like a bump-and-go robot that's, like- Yes ... caught in a corner.

Nichole: Yes.

Daniel: Which I think is a maybe a good moment for me to make the next inanimate object costume proposition that would require certain costumes out of you two, okay?

Nichole: Okay. Well, I can't wait to debate this.

Daniel: Okay. So Do you recall the episode of The Next Generation, Sub Rosa?

Laurel: You have to, you have to explain what the plot is ... once they know what Spain's plot is. Yeah.

Daniel: Okay. So, Beverly Crusher goes to Planet Scotland- finds her grandmother's erotic journals, starts reading them, finds her grandma's candle, lights the candle, and then magical jerk-off ghost comes from the candle and basically bones her as a mist

Nichole: I very clearly remember this episode. Yes. '

Daniel: So I wanna be human-size version of the sex candle,

Daniel: So the entourage then for this costume would be Beverly Crusher and hot Scottish ghost. Now, I want to lobby on behalf of Laurel for us not to make her go in drag

Nichole: Again.

Daniel: Again.

Nichole: Yes.

Daniel: And so it's still, I know you always wanna have the sexy costume, so this would still be sexy costume, but it would be sexy man costume. Are you willing? Nicole?

Laurel: We need a video component. Look at Nicole's face.

Nichole: See, you're doing this on the pod so that I have to say yes, because- So

Laurel: manipulative of

Nichole: you ... yeah, all the supers are gonna say, "Aw," when I don't agree.

Daniel: There's, there's no bald cap role for Laurel, so she

Laurel: what about I just go as the mist?

Daniel: I'm trying to visualize... If you go as the mist and Nicole goes as Beverly Crusher, you al- you also have to be humping her- the entire time. My God. I think that you would make a very handsome, dashing sex ghost, Nicole. Oh, no

Nichole: one's saying that I wouldn't. will s- You make me sound like I will only do, like, the sexy thing, 'cause you're like, "Oh, you just wanna be sexy." Fuck off. Yeah, I do wanna be sexy. Yeah. Like, I've never been this hot in my life, and so of course I want to be sexy.

Daniel: I think you've been hot the entire time that I've known you.

Nichole: You're, you're tr- I mean, that, that gains some points. Okay, fine.

Daniel: I think that it's not that you always want to be the hot person. I think that you have no choice. Like- ... whatever- He's

Nichole: trying so hard. He's trying so hard to backpedal.

Daniel: Whatever you dress up as becomes the hot costume.

Laurel: Fine. What- What's our next segment?

Daniel: we have a little ... Ask the amateurs.

Nichole: Ask the amateurs. Who's reading this?

Daniel: , You because you like to read them.

Laurel: You are

Nichole: a

Laurel: professional reader.

Nichole: I have- So many preferences.

Laurel: My nose is still dry from Vegas.

Daniel: Do you need glasses?

Laurel: For my nose? No.

Daniel: I was talking to the hot one.

Nichole: Shut the fuck up.

Daniel: Shut up.

Nichole: Okay. Ask the amateurs from Steubert. Hey, friends. Long time listener, first time stuvert. I caught your ad on Greatest Gen, and as a diehard friend of DeSoto and nerdy neurodivergent queer-adjacent Portlander, I knew your pod would be appointment listening. Thank you. Hmm. I'm recently out of my third long-term monogamous relationship in almost 30 years, and long story short, I'm realizing that going all in on one person is a compulsion bred of my religious upbringing- Mm Late-blooming emotional growth, and deeply rooted fears of being abandoned and not being special, quote-unquote. I've become friends at work with a lot of queer, poly, and generally openly dating people who've got me thinking about my own past and why I never felt like it was what I wanted, or was specifically more than I wanted. My question, at last... That was not me editorializing. That was from the stuvert. is how does a lifelong monogo- go about opening up to the idea of polyamory, and where, other than dating apps, does one go to meet people who may be sensitive to my naivete and inexperience?

Daniel: Hmm.

Nichole: I don't think I'm necessarily ready to be in a relationship yet, but I do want to meet and date people because I'm really working on finding and/or renewing my confidence and sense of identity. And from what I've learned from you and other poly folks is I might find people who are more welcoming to a person who's searching for something other than a long-term monogamous, live together, maintain a household kind of relationship.

Laurel: Huh. It's funny 'cause I, like, I find the, the first question, like opening up to it harder than the where you meet people one.

Daniel: Did you have a hard time, like, opening up mentally, like resetting your parameters?

Laurel: No. I had a, I had a hard time, uh, closing my brain down to monogamy. Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Hmm. Mm-hmm.

Laurel: Like, I did the reverse of like, "Oh, okay, this is what everyone's doing. I have to... This is okay. This is how you do it." And then when I realized I didn't have to do that, I was like, "Holy shit, uh, this is much more normal." there's other more like insidious monogamy programming

Daniel: Mm-hmm

Laurel: that's like below the surface- Mm-hmm ... that I sort of had to be like, "Oh, wait. Yeah, why, why am I thinking that way?" Or, "Why," like, "Why do I feel like I need to be the special one?"

Daniel: Yeah.

Laurel: everyone's like, "Read the books," and whatnot. I think it is a really good idea to like figure out what other people's experiences are so that you can get an idea of like the challenges you might face-

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: Mm-hmm ... and get an idea of what kinds of things you do need to deprogram because it's, hard to imagine it all- Yeah when you're like, you know, the fish doesn't know it's in water kind of thing.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: I don't know if this is good advice or not, but, like, I do think just, like, dating around-

Daniel: Yeah ...

Laurel: is good.

Daniel: I feel like these two halves of the question are kind of interconnected.

Laurel: Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Because I don't think that r/Stubert should wait until they are fully deprogrammed. Like, I don't think that there's an order of operations here. Yeah. I think that going out and meeting people, or meeting people online- Mm-hmm ... is part and parcel of what's going to help you deprogram, because you're going to be in contact with more poly and non-monogamous people. You are going to more quickly abut against the issues that you do have, and so it's going to just by force of practice get you to kind of work through those things. Like, I think the practice itself is the answer to the deprogramming.

Nichole: I think that remaining curious is the way that you, like, maybe move through this journey. So, you know, if you're talking to your coworkers who are openly queer or openly poly, , asking questions- Mm ... of them specifically, like the people in your life that you already know.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Nichole: and I don't think there's anything wrong with dating on, on the apps.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: Mm. Neither do I. , There are plenty of, like, poly meetups that you could go to. , But when you talk about, Daniel, like abutting against things , that might not align with your values, I think part of that is understanding what your values are.

Laurel: Yes. Mm.

Nichole: So, I think there is some pre-work before you start dating maybe, or just being very open and honest with yourself.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: I honestly feel like anybody and everybody should do exercises in unearthing their values.

Nichole: Yeah.

Laurel: Yeah. And being able to, like, name them and, Like, attach cohesive ideas to them. 'Cause it is, like, so revealing It makes interpersonal relationships, it makes, , jobs, it makes just, like, everything a lot clearer in life. Like, I've done this exercise where I just, like, I write down everything I care about.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: Mm-hmm. And it can be, , it can be a person, it can be an idea.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: , It can be an inanimate object, an animal, whatever. Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: And then I start grouping those together. Hmm. So, like, I just write down a bunch of shit, and then I'm like, "Okay, what are these, like, related to?"

Daniel: Mm-hmm. Do I, do I get to be in the circle with the animals?

Laurel: Yeah, you are in the animal circle.

Daniel: Thank you.

Laurel: and then I try to, like, find what is, like, common between those groups of things, and that is what I, like, consider my value.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Laurel: and, like, so one that I struggle with often, , is I, I believe in just, like, the inherent value of life.

Nichole: Mm-hmm. Hmm.

Laurel: but I eat meat.

Daniel: Mm-hmm.

Nichole: And I mean, between the two of us, we've gotten so many abortions.

Laurel: So many abortions. So many. So many abortions.

Daniel: I mean, that's one of the reasons why we, uh, want to get the exam table- ... here in the basement. Just

Laurel: for at-home abortions. Jesus.

Daniel: You gotta take it into your own

Laurel: hands. and I've, like, killed mosquitoes before. Mm-hmm. Gleefully. Yeah. Gleefully.

Nichole: I mean, Zika.

Laurel: Yeah.

Nichole: Yeah.

Daniel: Is that that, like, , malt liquor beverage?

Nichole: What is that malt liquor beverage?

Laurel: Uh, Zima?

Nichole: Zima.

Laurel: Oh my God, remember Zima commercials?

Nichole: Remember Zika?

Daniel: They were-

Nichole: It is all happening so long ago.

Daniel: There were, there were commercials for a mosquito-borne illness? Yes. I mean, I think that it doesn't have to be one or the other, I guess is what I'm saying. Is that, like, I think that you can do these exercises concurrently with the process of kind of- Yeah ... getting out, and y- you don't have to wait until, like, you're a finished, project-

Laurel: Yeah

Daniel: in order to- No, I agree ... to go out there.

Nichole: I agree. I think that's why there's some pre-work. '

Daniel: Yeah. Yeah.

Laurel: I think within their question, they're also asking, like, where do they meet people who are going to be patient with a new person? Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Mm.

Laurel: Which is, like, hard to say, ' cause it's hard to know who is going to be patient.

Daniel: I think if you're honest about where you're at-

Laurel: Yeah. Mm-hmm ...

Daniel: it's like having the sticker on the car that says student driver, right? It, it helps a little bit.

Laurel: Yeah. And after dating people who claim they're experienced, it's like...

Daniel: Dating somebody who is honest about being inexperienced is kinda nice. Yeah.

Nichole: That

Laurel: would

Nichole: be so refreshing- Yeah actually.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: It's the claiming that you have experience, or that- Yeah ... you're, like, definitely committed to this. You definitely want this. This is absolutely something that you want, and then a week later you break up with me.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: Yeah. I never believe the bumper stickers that say expert driver.

Laurel: Uh, like I think that Sanctuary has poly speed dating nights-

Daniel: Mm.

Laurel: Yeah ... every so often. Yep. and people there are almost exclusively non-monogamous in some capacity or another.

Nichole: also Peacock PDX.

Laurel: Oh, yeah.

Nichole: And that one is specifically queer, -

Laurel: Yeah ...

Nichole: I believe.

Laurel: I think this is the funny thing where when you go online or you look at Reddit, they make it seem like there's hard and fast rules and nobody ever wants to deal with a newbie, I think people in reality are just a lot more patient and just more interested in, people who are gonna be open-minded and honest. Um- Agreed.

Daniel: Yep.

Nichole: Yeah.

Daniel: And you seem really, uh, open-minded and honest- Yeah ... and solid. Which brings me to the very end of the letter, which you didn't read.

Nichole: Well, I'm not gonna read that on here.

Daniel: but then Stubert's can know that they can also take us out for drinks

Nichole: Oh my God. Okay. P.S., if you are open to it, I'd love to buy any and all of you a drink and chat IRL because while my parasocial relationship with you is lovely and fulfilling, I would genuinely love to meet you guys as real people and talk about relationships and Star Trek with you.

Laurel: Hell yeah.

Daniel: See, Stewarts, it's just that easy.

Nichole: Yeah. Walk up to us at a con- ... ask us if we're Polyamateur Hour, and then Daniel will be mad at you.

Daniel: To be clear, I wasn't mad at Beth Stubert, I was mad at myself

Nichole: For?

Daniel: Sounding like a Betazoid gift box- ... just in general.

Nichole: Well, speaking of Star Trek, I guess- ... which is like all the time, while we were at Star Trek Las Vegas, We got to hang out with Open Pike Night, our new best buds.

Daniel: They are definitely our closest podcast friends.

Laurel: Our-

Nichole: Yes ...

Laurel: besties.

Nichole: Yes.

Daniel: Yes.

Nichole: I joined them on stage at- Mm-hmm ... Star Trek Las Vegas. That

Daniel: was amazing.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: You were so good.

Nichole: Thank you. You're

Daniel: hot.

Nichole: It was an honor and a privilege

Daniel: So Open Pike Night is a podcast that is hosted by John, Jesse, and Cam. None of them are poly.

Nichole: Nope.

Daniel: But we're in some kind of s- Will

Laurel: they, won't they situationship.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: And we just have a lot of fun together. We have- We do ... so much fun together. Yeah. And they were kind enough to let us use their room at the Rio- They also say really nice things about us, which is insane. They

Laurel: are so

Daniel: sweet. That is crazy.

Laurel: It's fucking nuts.

Nichole: I don't know- It makes me walk into the other room ...

Laurel: I don't know why they are willing to be seen with us.

Nichole: I don't either.

Laurel: Oh my God, I need to tell my Martin Quinn story.

Nichole: Oh, you

Daniel: do. All right. You do. Quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nichole: Yeah.

Laurel: Okay, we all know I have a huge crush on Martin Quinn, i.e. young Scotty of Strange New Worlds. I had been joking for a while with the Open Pike Night, , gentlemen to introduce me at the con, but make sure not to do it when I'm dressed as Mr. Homm. The last day, Daniel and Nicole and Reed and I are going to sit down in the cantina at the Rio, which is on the complete opposite side of the showroom floor.

Daniel: You just got your chicken tendies.

Laurel: I just got my chicken tendies.

Daniel: Which is your, like, pussy nip. God.

Laurel: Oh my God, that is my pussy nip. I love a chicken tendy. I was so thrilled to sit down and eat my chicken tendies, and I'm texting with the Open Pike Night guys. I think Reed had mentioned something about, about Martin Quinn just approaching them-

Daniel: Mm-hmm

Laurel: and being like, "Oh, hey, guy." Like, they're buddies. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They're buddies. And so I started texting them like, "Come on, guys, hook a sister up." And, I think it was John that replied Well, yeah, how quickly can you get over here?" And I was like, "Five minutes. I'm in the cantina."

Nichole: You turn to me. You go, "Breath strip."

Laurel: Yeah.

Nichole: You abandon your chicken tendies- Yeah ... and you literally book it.

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: Like,

Laurel: I ran clear across the Rio. I gave myself an asthma attack. and then I also had, like, chicken tendy taste in my mouth and this, like, breath strip. Like, everything was just-

Daniel: Yeah, like the Listerine- Yeah ... like, scalding mint flavor.

Laurel: Yeah, and it didn't, like, overcome the chicken tend- it was not right. and, like, literally, I, I'm running down the hall, and, like, seas of people are parting for me. Yeah. Like, I get to the convention hall. I stop real quick 'cause my, I, my mouth is dry and, like, tastes like iron and chicken tendies and the Listerine strip. I grab some water, and I run into the hall. And I see, the three guys, Open Pike Uh, and they're stalling, and Cam, like, waves me over, and I'm sloshing water everywhere. Martin is just sitting there coolly, And my hand is literally shaking.

Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Laurel: Yeah. they introduce me.

Daniel: Uh-huh.

Laurel: and Martin repeats my name back to me with his Scottish accent-

Daniel: Ugh ...

Laurel: which is so adorable. Mm-hmm. And I said, "I have three disgusting tastes in my mouth right now." Because I just ran clear across the casino because I have an appropriately sized crush on you. he also shook my hand, and I apologized for my hand being wet.

Daniel: Jesus Christ

Laurel: And I think he said something like, "It's okay, my hand is wet all the time." I don't know. And Cam is, like, prompting me, like, "You can do it, Laurel."

Nichole: Oh,

Laurel: oh my God.

Daniel: Oh my

Laurel: God.

Daniel: So my Strange New Worlds crush is on Celia Rose Gooding-

Laurel: Yes ...

Daniel: She plays Uhura, and is not only beautiful, but, like, the most talented human being that I have ever experienced or known or heard tell of.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: I had, you know, kind of a similarly, embarrassing, interaction, just in the fact that I completely froze up. That deer in the headlights look that you had at the end, I just began the conversation like that, I felt like the way that it came across is that I was your simple friend- ... Laurel. 'Cause Laurel was talking for me, and it was just like, "Yes, he would like a, a autograph." Aw. And I was like, "Ah,

Laurel: so your story made me feel better about not saying anything at all. Yeah, those are your choices: say what I said or nothing at all

Nichole: I wasn't there for either of these. I was making out in the corner.

Laurel: Nice. Nice, nice, nice.

Daniel: But not with our guest's Open Pike Night.

Nichole: Not until they let me.

Laurel: Oh my God. Wait, I shouldn't talk about this.

Daniel: Well, now- What is, what?

Laurel: The last night after, like, we all hung out at the Damien Hirst bar-

Daniel: Yeah.

Nichole: Mm-hmm ...

Laurel: I had, like, a wild sex dream with Open Pike Night. And I was like, "I should never tell them about this."

Nichole: All right, roll tape, roll tape, roll tape.

Jesse: Did, did we start?

Daniel: Yeah.

Jesse: Yes, we did. We never stopped.

Daniel: Yeah. Sorry we started the orgy without you. Mm. As usual. That

Jesse: always happens to me.

Laurel: Yeah.

Jesse: Always the last to know.

Laurel: Well, honestly, I think sometimes it's better to join in than be there at the beginning. Mm. Mm-hmm. Everybody's warmed up. All awkwardness has passed. I also like to make an entrance.

Daniel: There also is an entry turbulence though, 'cause everybody's kinda, you know- Mm ... you know, doing their own thing, and you just kind of... There's- Not if

Laurel: you're confident enough ...

Cameron: you're

Daniel: just lurking for a minute. Is

Cameron: it, is it, is it- Is it like entering a conversation at a bar at a Star Trek convention- Yeah. Exactly. Where you're like, "Okay.

Daniel: I was at the hall earlier. Can I- Exactly.

Cameron: Oh, no, you're engaged already. No. Okay. Okay. Um...

Daniel: And you're trying to... You're looking around and you're trying to figure out, "Okay, what character are you?" Mm-hmm. "What are you?" Yeah. "What are you?"

John: I mean, it just comes down to looking for an opening- Mm ultimately, right? Exactly. Yeah.

Daniel: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Jesse: Oh.

John: Yeah, that, yeah, that, that's when you know you did it right. Everybody,

Cameron: Guys, it is one day until our anniversary. We met you one year ago tomorrow. That's

Daniel: true. Oh, my God.

Cameron: Aww. I just realized.

Daniel: That's pretty amazing. What did you, what did you get us?

Cameron: Oh, shit. It's tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. We got time. Don't ruin the surprise. I got you some Animal Circus cookies with beards

Nichole: on them. I'ma check there. And Laurel does have a giant pile that she's actually

Laurel: working her way through. That I'm still, still

John: gonna chip away at.

Laurel: but yeah, it's exciting to be here in person in Las Vegas.

Jesse: Indeed.

Daniel: Yeah.

Laurel: On Open Pike Night.

Daniel: Back in the Rio Hotel.

Laurel: I'm gonna say- ... back in the Rio Hotel with the, absolute sweetest podcast-

Cameron: who?

Laurel: You guys Should we, can you

Cameron: introduce us? Thank you.

Laurel: It's Open Pike Night. He said Open Pike Night. Yeah. It's Open Pike Night. Ah. It's Open Pike Night. It's Open Pike Night with producer John.

John: Hello.

Laurel: Like, John usually gives you funny intros, I guess. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't have any funny intros.

John: Ha- half the time I write those ahead of time, half the time I just wing it. Um- Oh, yeah.

Laurel: The talent. Sometimes he'll write one

Cameron: down, so I prep a response- Yeah ... and he hits me with something else. Oh. Yeah.

Laurel: That's some fuckery, man.

Cameron: Yeah, agent of chaos. Yep. And we don't, we don't have titles like he does, like producer John.

Laurel: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's just Jesse.

Cameron: That's me. Mm-hmm. I'm just Jesse. He's just Jesse.

Nichole: And there's Baby Bear Cam.

Cameron: Oh, I'll take

Jesse: it. He was actually wearing a green shirt today, so. Yeah. That was the most baby bear energy. Yeah.

John: She infused me.

Daniel: Mm. We have asked you here today

Cameron: to- Uh-oh. Here it comes.

Daniel: Yep, it's gonna be- We've been waiting ... a group marriage. Or that's how you start a marriage or a funeral. Yes. So who knows what's gonna happen by the end of this game? I'm

John: so excited.

Daniel: this is the ideal game for Open Pike Night. This is Star Trek Booty Roster.

Cameron: I like it already.

John: Excellent.

Daniel: So we're gonna choose a series, okay?

John: Okay.

Daniel: Then we are going to choose our polycule. Any character who appears in the series- Mm ... can be in your polycule.

John: Okay.

Daniel: There are three members, okay? You have your...

Nichole: Nesting officer.

Daniel: Your...

Laurel: Dating officer.

Daniel: And your fucking officer.

Laurel: That fucking officer. That fucking

Daniel: officer. And we're gonna do it like a draft style. We do it in, in rounds. Mm-hmm. And you cannot pick the same person for the same position as somebody else has chosen.

Cameron: All right. This doesn't sound poly.

Daniel: In order to make it poly, we have to make it confusing.

Jesse: Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. All right.

Daniel: You can pick somebody who i- is playing a different role, a d- a different officer- Oh, okay ... for somebody else. if you do pick somebody who is in somebody else's polycule- Mm-hmm you automatically are part of a greater polycule with them.

Cameron: Mm.

Daniel: Except today, the series that we have chosen in order to make your lives very awkward moving forward is Strange New Worlds. Yeah.

John: Oh, good.

Daniel: Okay. All right.

John: Glen did it. That is the series whose creators and actors we have almost exclusively interviewed every single one of them in person or met face to face. Yeah. So yeah, this should be- Yeah ... no problem Totally,

Jesse: totally normal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, now that they're not filming, maybe they'll listen to our show less.

Daniel: I mean, if they're listening to our show, then I think they're- ... they might be into you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Cameron: That's fair. It's a really

John: good point. Thank you. If you follow us to another podcast, you really do like us. Yeah. That's for sure.

Cameron: To be clear, this is the characters.

John: Yes.

Cameron: The characters. All right. All right.

Daniel: All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that we'll give each one of you a chance to go first. Yes. Okay.

Cameron: Oh, I have a question before we start. Yeah. Yeah. Laurel, how are those cookies?

Laurel: I'm still eating them. She's

Cameron: still going.

Laurel: It's, uh-

Cameron: Notice you didn't say they're good. Yeah.

Jesse: Yeah.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: This is, this is the answer that you don't want when you're, , having sex with Laurel and ask, "How is it?"

Jesse: We're still doing it.

Daniel: I'm still- Oh, I'm still eating it. I just...

John: All

Daniel: right. Okay. All right, John, who is your nesting officer?

John: I have to go with Amanda Grayson. Absolutely, hands down, spot on. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

Daniel: Nice choice. Okay. And, and deep cut. Wow. And somebody you have probably never interviewed.

John: No, but- Not despite

Daniel: trying,

John: and that's- The, yeah ... Mike and Troy ... we, we tried, but the day we do might see me as flustered as we did with Jonathan Frakes- Yeah for different reasons. Yeah. So yeah.

Jesse: All right. You're up, Jesse.

Daniel: You're up, Jesse.

Jesse: Okay, so I think you'd want some- stability here- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm ... for a, a nesting officer and somebody who's, you know, got a pretty good setup. So I'm going to pick Alora.

John: God. Ooh.

Jesse: Ooh. From Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach. Uh, she's basically in charge of that whole planet. Yeah.

John: Yeah.

Jesse: So-

John: That's a good choice ...

Jesse: I, I'm gonna, while I'm home, not think about what it takes for her to be in charge of that planet. Right.

Cameron: But-

Jesse: Yeah ... I'm

Daniel: just

Jesse: gonna- I'm gonna

Cameron: ask what charges her batteries.

Jesse: Yeah, I'm just- ... gonna reap the benefits.

Daniel: are you having dinner at her house? Did

Jesse: you

Daniel: see her

Jesse: house? Yeah.

Daniel: Oh, yeah. Jesus. Yeah. I guess you're marrying the fucking princess here, right? Yeah. She

Cameron: gets to live in, like, the city with the walkways in the sky and-

Daniel: I don't know, man. Like, I would feel so bad every time I turned a light on in that house. You're like the... And the child just gets a shock or something. But it's

John: one

Daniel: child.

John: Yeah, Daniel. For, like, 10 years. It's one kid. Come on. For a

Daniel: whole

John: planet. We are in America. How many kids a day do you think this country sacrifices- Right ... just

Daniel: for fun?

John: I mean- And I feel

Daniel: bad every time I turn the light on.

John: Yeah, exactly. And they usually

Jesse: pick

John: the

Jesse: brattiest

John: kid.

Jesse: I mean-

John: Yeah.

Daniel: Nobody liked this kid much.

Jesse: Yeah. Just kind of picked him last. I g- j- the upsetting part is that when they swap the kid, the old one's still a little juicy.

John: Yeah, I know. Ew. It's like you don't have to show the c- the new one what the old one looks like.

Daniel: All right, Dan.

Cameron: Uh, nesting. Okay. I think I'm gonna have to go with one Jenna Mitchell. Oh.

John: Oh. Oh.

Cameron: She's smart, she's calm, she has cool ghost stories. She, like, everyone on that bridge has neuroses and, like, trauma, and she just weathers it all, cool as a cucumber. She can deal with me.

John: Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Who the hell are you talking about? You said we could pick anyone from the show. I know. I know. We should have known. I know. We should have known. I know. Yeah. Is this somebody, is this somebody who was, did, like, crossover with Xena: Warrior Princess or something?

Cameron: So Jenna Mitchell usually sits to Ortegas right- Yeah ... on the bridge. She's- She's the

John: other person in the front. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. The check off to Ortegas as Sulu.

Cameron: Yeah. Okay. She's in, like, three or four episodes a season. Yeah. Just

Jesse: until season four.

Cameron: Until season four. Yeah. Hardly, hardly

Jesse: says anything. Yeah, she did... She had a- She, she had a few moments.

Cameron: She came up with the plan at Hegemony part two of how to, to tag the ship or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Laurel: Yeah. Okay. Karen likes them quiet. She got her moment in the sun. If I'm gonna live with them, then a few lines. Just a few, here and there. Poignant, but...

Cameron: You know what? Just pick someone else. Oh. Uh, the, the lizard that, uh, Ortega meets on the planet. The Gorn. I love

Jesse: Gorn

Cameron: Tegas. Yes. Aw. Nice. Wait, who are you picking? Jenna Mitchell. Okay. Okay. I, I'm gonna marry Jenna Mitchell.

Daniel: Okay. Okay.

Cameron: Nest. I'm nest.

Jesse: Yeah.

Daniel: because I did have the Gorn on my- Oh ... nesting list- Aw ... but a few, a few steps down. Oh,

Cameron: okay.

Laurel: Okay

Daniel: But since nobody else has picked the obvious, I'm gonna pick Captain Pike.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: Like, that guy can cook. Mm. He's like, he's such a home builder. He likes to host. He's got a lot in common with Nicole.

John: Ah.

Daniel: Aw.

John: He can cook, and I promise you, he will cook. Yeah. No, that was a joke About the horrible fi- disfiguring fire he was gonna be in. Sorry. Just to be clear. He will be cooked. Yes. He will be

Daniel: cooked. And his quarters, man-

John: That's a solid choice.

Daniel: The- Yeah ... that's like a penthouse- Yeah ... captain's quarters- It's got the... Yeah ... right there.

Cameron: Conversation pit fire. I think it says a lot about you, Daniel, that you wanna nest the one person we know is not gonna be around really in about seven years. Well, I think there are some commitment issues we need to discuss, Daniel. They, they didn't say it would be a permanent poly family.

Daniel: Hey, I'm okay being a caretaker.

Cameron: Okay. All right.

Daniel: I, you know? We'll go- Yeah. Yeah, you are. You know, that's true. That's true. You're really good at it. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I set you up for that, Daniel. Thank you, Cam. That's your compliment wingman right there. Yeah.

Nichole: Okay. So I chose someone who probably energetically complete opposite of me. Oh,

Daniel: okay.

Nichole: Oh. Um, but quarters fucking rules. Pelia. Oh.

Daniel: Oh,

Nichole: yeah. She has all the analog stuff- Yeah ... and I'm like, "Oh, phone I can pick up. Yes. Lamp I can turn on with a little string. Yes."

Daniel: Honey, though. Will you be able to deal with Pelia just the ADHD panorama clutter?

Nichole: I think you have set me up in order to do that. To deal with me with Pelia.

John: Oh. But also remember- Yeah, yeah ... that she's basically choosing to be a house pet for Pelia too, because she will keep getting older. Pelia will just eventually have to be like, "Well, onto my next nesting partner." Yeah. So it is, it is a strange choice there, but an excellent choice.

Nichole: Well, now I'm just staring off into space. Thinking about me growing older.

Cameron: You're going to have to do all the

Daniel: drugs

Cameron: for her so she can

Daniel: do her share- Yeah. She, yeah, she can't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

John: exactly.

Daniel: Yeah. Don't worry, we'll take care of you when you're in the beeping chair. Yeah. Laurel?

Laurel: Uh, to nobody's surprise, I'm gonna choose Scotty.

Laurel: engineer's great. I think when we did our DS9, I picked O'Brien. Mm.

Daniel: I mean,

Laurel: yeah. Yeah.

Nichole: Yeah.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: That was the right answer.

Laurel: Yeah. Exactly.

Nichole: And I picked Odo because he lives in a bucket.

Daniel: You are always like- ... what is going to afford me the most space or the coolest shit?

Nichole: Yeah.

Daniel: Okay.

Nichole: I'm nothing if not an opportunist.

Daniel: What I like about Scotty is that he is gonna fix everything. Mm-hmm. What I worry about for you is that, like, kind of the inverse of with Nicole, I feel like Scotty is gonna be very, like, , controlling of, like, the space. Like, if you m- leave messes around, he's gonna have, like, he's gonna have a little alert- Yeah uh, buttons

Laurel: set up. This is going to be good for me.

Daniel: Uh-huh. Yeah.

Laurel: I f- I can thrive with oversight.

Daniel: I'll re- I'll remember that you said that.

Laurel: Not from you.

Daniel: From Nicole.

Cameron: From

Daniel: me. You gotta have a

Jesse: Scottish accent when you-

Laurel: Yeah ... give her oversight, Daniel. He has a Scottish accent. He's sweet. He's cute. Like, there's longevity there. It's

Nichole: gonna work out.

Laurel: It's gonna work out. Yeah.

Daniel: Yeah.

Jesse: Yeah, and the only other time we see him interact with a woman, he crashes and burns. So I think it makes good sense. I,

Laurel: I love an awkward man

Daniel: Thank you, baby. All, all right. Okay. Now we're onto our dating officers, and now Jesse is going to kick things off.

Jesse: All right, so a dating officer, you want somebody who knows how to go out and have a good time, right? You want somebody who is gonna introduce you to a lot of people. Mm-hmm. You want somebody you're gonna have a ton of fun with. Oh,

John: you son of a bitch, you're gonna pick me, aren't

Jesse: you? And as evidenced by the most recent episode of Strange New Worlds, I think that person is Uhura.

John: Oh. Oh.

Jesse: She can talk to anyone. Yeah. She knows how to have a good time. That's a journey I wanna be on. Mm-hmm.

John: That's a solid choice. Yeah. All right. Very solid choice. Great. Yeah.

Daniel: I wanna thank you for choosing Uhura, because that means that I don't have to. Mm-hmm. 'Cause I, I would've most likely. Mm-hmm. And I am absolutely starstruck and terrified by Celia Rose Gooding. Yeah. And so I would just... I, I even... I, she's never gonna hear this, but even me just saying this, I would, I would, you know-

Jesse: We can send it to her if you like. Yeah.

Laurel: Hey, Celia,

Jesse: what's up?

Laurel: Please,

Daniel: please do. Yeah. So,

Jesse: And you got... Uhura is somebody you have to be able to keep up with. Mm-hmm. She's gonna be out later than everyone else. Yeah. Like, a- and she's gonna dress to the nines every time.

Cameron: Yeah. Yeah.

John: Hell

Cameron: yeah. Oh, yeah. She is a bit of a workaholic, though. She's gonna cancel on you f- more than once.

Jesse: But when she relaxes- Hoo ... she relaxes all

John: the time. Yeah. I- I'm sorry. You're telling- She runs the planet ... you're telling Jesse, who will be like, "Sweet, I can play video games or stream anime." "Oh, Gooding, she's gonna work later." Yeah. Now- Yeah, I fucking

Jesse: love canceled plans. Now I have, now I have time to not edit that show I was

Cameron: supposed to edit. Uh, well, let's... So I'm between two. if you wanna talk about someone who's gonna take you out and show you a good time, and introduce you to a variety of people, and change who you are into a better version of yourself, it's gotta be Beckett Mariner.

John: Oh.

Cameron: Oh, yeah. Beckett Mariner. Yes. And I just have to decide, do I want animated

Jesse: or live action? I don't know. Either way. I don't know. Either way.

Daniel: She, she was on my shortlist as well. We're on a wavelength here. Okay.

Cameron: Ooh. We're on a wavelength. I think so,

Daniel: Daniel. Yeah.

Cameron: We're gonna end up at, you know, Metamorph somehow, one way or another.

Daniel: I'm going to maybe continue on the theme of choosing people who are just like my partners. Right? And I think, who is the Laurel- Hmm ... of Strange New Worlds?

Cameron: Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Pelia.

Cameron: Damn it. Yes. Damn it. You're right. She was on my shortlist for dating too.

Daniel: Yeah.

Cameron: Yeah.

Daniel: Yeah. Pelia, like, she does some psychedelics every now and then. With

Cameron: some work on her,

Daniel: but she does them. Yeah. But she's into... She's already- And actually,

Laurel: that's... Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Yeah. 'Cause I, I take a shitload.

Daniel: Yeah. She's, like, already in the state of mind of, like, just open and curious about everything. She's slept with Doctor Who. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. Mm-hmm. As Laurel has. Only because sh- she slept with a doctor whose name she can't remember.

Nichole: All right. So you all are choosing people who like, "They'll introduce me to a ton of people- and we'll have so much fun." I was thinking about somebody who I could have a nice conversation with one-on-one. Aw. Aw. Um, who's gonna make the snarky jokes that I can also one-up, um, and we could have a good rapport. Erica Ortegas . Oh.

Daniel: Nice. Great

Nichole: choice. Yeah. Great choice. Fantastic choice. Um, I just think, like, if I got them in a conversation just, like, one-on-one- Yeah you know, we could probably talk for hours. Mm-hmm. I'm into that.

Laurel: All right. Uh, yeah. Beckett and Pelia were my top two choices. Oh. Mm. Uh, so fuck y'all. I'm just gonna go out of, kind of left field, I just think, um, Ensign Gamble before the turn-

Daniel: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laurel: Yeah ... was just so sweet- Yeah ... and so eager to please. Yeah.

Nichole: Aw.

Laurel: And just adorable, I think they would just be so much fun.

Daniel: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Would you continue to see them after they're possessed by demons and their eyes were hollowed out?

Laurel: Yeah, that's when the relationship is really gonna take off. Yeah.

Daniel: That's when we're gonna-

Laurel: Are you

Daniel: gonna peg their socket?

Jesse: Oh, God.

Laurel: That is- Even

Jesse: Daniel didn't like that joke.

Laurel: Yeah, yeah. As

Daniel: soon as it came out of my mouth-

Laurel: You're like, "Ugh" ... I'm like, "Oh." Yeah, no, things are gonna get weird and freaky, and I, and it will continue dating for too long after that one time- ... as I'm wont to do. As you're wont to do.

Daniel: We're all following our patterns here.

Laurel: Yeah. Yeah.

Jesse: Yeah. Laurel will be like, "That's step three in cult initiation- Yeah. ... before she's like, 'Hang on.'" Yes.

John: It's like, "I have to do what with this into my eyes? What?" Yeah. But it's- I'll

John: I do have a very specific way of dating, and sometimes it'll be overly romantic gestures, sometimes it'll be much more adventurous, so I need somebody who can handle both of those. Mm. Both energetically, but also have just sort of a chill attitude toward it, and I can't think of anybody better than Oona Chin Riley- yeah, we would have some outstanding dates together, and if I ever get too drunk, she can carry me back to bed because- Aw. ... she can just toss me over her shoulder like she does with Heather and walk down the hall.

Jesse: You know she's where fun goes to die, right? This,

John: this- Okay, that

Jesse: was

John: a

Jesse: misconception ... And we have seen her love karaoke-

John: Yeah ... at Halo. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I could match her song for song in karaoke. 100%. Yes. Yes.

Jesse: 100%. Yeah.

Daniel: All right. Okay.

Nichole: Most fun round.

Daniel: This is where you guys get canceled. Talk about sex.

Cameron: Yep. Anything?

Daniel: for clarity, we're talking about your fucking officer.

Cameron: My fucking officer. Great. Yes. Okay. Yes, thank you. Okay, because I, I don't know when this happened. It was j- a couple years ago, I found I had a thing for Vulcans. I don't know why. Mm.

Laurel: Yeah.

Cameron: Something about the Vulcan lady. Vulcan in the streets, and then- Is it when

Laurel: you started watching Enterprise?

Cameron: Uh- That was where the seed was buried in the soil, yes. Um, and then T'Lin- I know who he's gonna pick ... in Lower Decks, I don't know why.

Daniel: You guys, TOS Spock is hot. Yeah. Yeah. Like- Yeah. Yes, yes ... they're all fucking hot. Just,

Cameron: yes. All Spocks are hot. Yeah. I mean- Duh. Duh. I mean, I'll take Doug to the sheets even- ... but my choice will be T'Pring. Yeah. Because that episode- Yeah. Great choice ... just they're flirting over dinner- Dude ... in that first episode- First episode, yeah ... is so hot. Yeah,

John: first episode, T'Pring's like, "Woo." "

Cameron: Woo." "

John: All right."

Cameron: So-

John: This is good flirting. Yes.

Cameron: Yeah. Absolutely. She can strap me down and cut my ears off any day.

Daniel: I mean, I, I think also, like, the ones who are, like, tamped down like that- Yeah, exactly ... are the ones ... She's just gonna go fucking

Cameron: nuts. And it's gonna be crazy.

Daniel: Yeah.

Cameron: Nuts. That strength, like any position.

Daniel: Yeah.

Cameron: Yeah.

Nichole: Good choice.

Cameron: Thank

Daniel: Once again, T'Pring was on my shortlist- Mm-hmm ... for fucking officer. However, I'm gonna go all the way down my list- ... I'm gonna choose for my fucking officer- Mm-hmm ... Spock's brother- Hmm. Ooh ... Sybok. Ooh. imagine how good the sex would be- ... with his psychic, like, he feels your- He's gonna take your pain.

John: Yeah.

Daniel: And he can also take your pleasure, I bet, and feel, like, he, you can exchange these, like, emotions. It would be fucking otherworldly. Oh,

John: yeah. Share it. Share that embarrassment.

Daniel: It'd be, it would be- Yeah.

Jesse: Well, and he also

Cameron: kind- And he comes with Captain Angel.

Daniel: Yeah.

Jesse: Sybok did also explicitly state that, like, getting his people to make love with passion again was part of, kind of his mission. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So-

Cameron: You will see God with him. Hmm.

Daniel: Yes. Yeah.

Jesse: Or something adjacent.

Cameron: Something, some, a big head, a big old white dude.

Nichole: Well, you're in luck, babe, because I chose for my fucking officer Captain Angel.

Daniel: Yeah. Ah. Great.

Nichole: Yes. Yeah. Great. Um, I am very

Daniel: subby. Mm-hmm.

Nichole: So I need the domination. Also, They're so hot. and I just really, really, loved that, wanted, wanted that.

Daniel: Yeah. Thank, thank you for introducing them into our polycule via Sybok.

Nichole: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Daniel: Um, Angel was on my shortlist for both dating and fucking as well. Really? Yes. Oh. Yeah.

Laurel: I'm going with Pelia here, because you, you cannot have lived that long and not know a few- Mm a few things. Mm.

Nichole: Oh, yeah.

Laurel: And also, in every one of my queer relationships, I've always been the older one, and I wanna be baby.

Daniel: Yeah.

Laurel: Mm-hmm. I wanna be baby for a change.

Daniel: Baby

Nichole: bear. You deserve that.

Laurel: Yeah.

Daniel: Thank

Laurel: you.

Daniel: You do. You do. Thank you. This is, this is so sweet that all of us chose Pelia for different roles. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It's

John: I am, I'm a little disappointed at the lack of imagination for everybody- ... and I'm gonna have to go- Oh ... with somebody, again, who is a professional, who is quite skilled at their job, well-respected, liked by everyone- And has three arms-

Cameron: Yes

John: to make sex even that much better. I'm going with the bartender from season three. On my

Cameron: shortlist 100%.

John: Also, the only swingers joke that, that Strange New Worlds has made so far, right? Yeah. When, yeah. Yeah. Like, like they... So yeah, I'm going with the bartender. I'm pretty sure that was the only time we're gonna see that character. Yeah.

Jesse: Oh. They really wanted to get that character in- Mm ... and then as we're filming realized this is an absolute nightmare.

John: Yeah. Yeah. The third arm was always a problem. Like, like how to make it work, and they tried so many different things. Just like dating John. All right.

Laurel: the

Jesse: holodeck ... I do have a type, and I want somebody who's gonna match, you know, kind of my, my energy in that arena. Mm-hmm. And I'm picking, I'm picking Ensign Christina. Yes, I knew you were. Yeah. Yeah. I knew you were. Una. She has a Bolian best friend. That

Cameron: she might invite every once in a while.

Jesse: She might invite every once in a while. They do everything together. Okay? And I know there are some unchecked boxes on Enterprise Bingo, and I really feel like I could help her check some of those boxes.

Daniel: I like this idea of the, of like this alternate universe Jesse who is on the Enterprise- ... and so slutty, just such a himbo, such a man whore, that you are on the bingo card- of, of things that everybody has to do- ... when they come

John: onto the Enterprise. This one just says Jesse?

Daniel: Like that we're not also not... We didn't describe the three weird tastes. Also not gonna describe the crazy sex dream.

Nichole: Bye.